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My pigeons are eating well but find it difficult to swollow?
Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms of catarrh you are describing could indicate an infection with trichomoniasis, candidiasis and/or herpes virus. Since you have already treated for canker, you and your vet should probably take these two other possibilities into account. Herpes is very common but is a virus so it is hard to treat. You could consider an L-lysine treatment and vaccination if possible.
Kind regards
My pigeons were diagnosed with herpes virus about 2 months ago and also were vomiting just over a week ago?
Dear Madam/Sir,
Herpes is very common in pigeons and a lot of pigeons stay carrier of the virus. This doesn't at all have to mean that bird will not perform well, but in cases of immunity weakening this virus can cause some temporary respiratory and/or throat problems. This can happen because of the races, the stress in the baskets, etc... Then it can help to administer L-lysine on the food for one week f.e. This has a blocking effect on the multiplication of the virus and does help clinically, but it is no medication so it can come back when the birds still have a weak immunity or other diseases. Vaccinations can be of help to prevent the disease from breaking through.
Kind regards
What is causing this 'chewing' and laborious breathing in my pigeons?
Dear Madam/Sir,
Having read your complete story and search for a cause, I'm personally left with one main explanation from my point of view, but I could off course still be wrong. It could also be important to inform us on which kind of samples were sent (droppings, blood,...)?
From my perspective I think of herpes virus being responsible for the symptoms you are seeing. Although it came back negative I would be curious to know from which samples and with what technique herpes virus was investigated. It could be interesting to vaccinate your pigeons for pigeon herpes virus if you can get such a vaccine.
Also it is my experience that vaccinating against paratyphus (salmonella) (in my case always with dead vaccines), has a positive effect on general immunity and so also on immunity for herpes problems. There are a lot of false negative sample tests for salmonella, so coming back negative from a lab doesn't have to mean anything.
Hoping to be of some help.
Kind regards
I would like to know what causes herpes virus and how do the birds get infected with this?
Please assist as i dont know what to use to treat yellow spots in the throat of my pigeons?
Dear Madam/Sir,
These white-yellow spots could be caused by herpes virus, trichomoniasis or candidiasis. These spots could also be harmless sialolites. I would have to see the birds to be sure. Try to let the birds be checked by a vet for trichomoniasis and candida. My suspicion from your story is herpes virus. This is very common in racing birds but difficult to treat.
Kind regards
When I open the beak of a bird, a silverish/white stain is present on the roof of the birds palate. This rash like stain is on both sides of the opening in palate?
Dear Madam/Sir,
This symptom indicates strongly for a pigeon herpes virus infection. You should also consider candida, trichomiasis and/or bacterial overgrowth. The scratching is an indication for upper respiratory problem but this could also be related with the herpes virus.
Kind regards
We have started our racing season 2 weeks ago, and mine is a disaster with loss of good pigeons. On handling they look healthy. Can you help?
Dear Madam/Sir,
Although the racing condition during the week and for short training tosses seems to be fine from the information in your question, it is still very probable a disease or syndrom is causing the problems you are talking about. I am thinking about streptococs, paratyphus and/or herpes. These diseases are not easily detectable on normal diagnostic examination. More information on history of the loft and diseases is necessary to get a complete picture and to be able to find the cause.
Kind regards
Je suis en colombophil italien, j'aimerai avoire Votre conseil sur un problem que j'ai dans l'elevage?
Bonjour Madame/Monsieur,
Les symptomes peuvent indiquer une E. coli problème. On doit aussi penser à la trichomonose, paratyphose ou herpes. Avec E. coli on peut traiter avec f.e. un sulfonamide avec trimetoprim (ou amoxicillin) pour 8 jours et/ou essayer de laisser faire une autovaccin.
Mes salutations sportives
My pigeons have always sputum in the throat, and I can not eliminate it. I've tried to various forms, but can not?
Dear Sir,
Causes of this could be: trichomoniasis, herpes, upper respiratory problems (bacteria like mycoplasma and others), candida infections. Depending on the problem you should give different medication. Try to get a diagnosis with an avian vet. Treatment for trichomonas could be ronidazole, for bacteria antibiotics like spiramycine, linco-spectin,..., for candida nystatin, for herpes there is no effective treatment without losing condition of the birds completely, but I have some results with L-lysine. As a preventive measure I have good results with a high quality colloidal silver solution.
Kind regards
I have almost the whole flock who suffers from a dark red throat and the larynx is all the time pumping in and out I mean it's never stable?
Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms you describe are indicative for a throat inflammation. This can be caused by trichomoniasis, herpes, candida and/or other bacteria like E. coli, staphylococcus, pelistega. A simple diagnostic examination by a vet could show if the birds are infected with trichomoniasis or candidiasis. It is always first important to rule out canker (trichomoniasis) before you can take other steps. When the pigeons are free from canker or candida and the symptoms remain, you can give antibiotics for bacterial problems. Lincomycine-spectinomycine and amoxicillin are mostly good antibiotics for these indications, but an antibiogram (after isolation of pathogenic bacteria in throat swabs) could give more information on what antibiotic is best. But even then we should not underestimate the influence herpes virus could have on the symptoms, even an underlying problem like paratyphus could be of great importance. Try to rule out all of these causes and give the pigeons enough space and fresh air.
Kind regards
Is there any adenovirus and herpesvirus vaccines available for pigeons? Can we use circovirus and pox vaccines for chickens?
Dear Sir,
There are no such pigeon vaccines available at the moment. The EDS vaccine for chickens has been used with pigeons for adenovirus, but scientifically the efficacity of this is seriously questioned, because the EDS adenovirus is very different to the pigeon adenovirus. The problem with vaccines developed for other animals is that these vaccines are not tested with pigeons for efficacity or side-effects. Sometimes the virus strains can differ a lot from the virus strain that causes disease with pigeons. It could be interesting to test the chicken circo vaccines on pigeons. I don't think it is interesting to use the Marek vaccines (herpes) for chickens, because the virus is quite different.
It is absolutely not advisable to use chicken pox vaccines with pigeons. In some chicken vaccines the original (living) pigeon pox virus is used. This means you would give your birds the pox disease.
Kind regards
Recently in my racing team i have been noticing some pigeons with a white mould like spot in their epiglottis?
Dear Sir,
The spots on the epiglottis are probably sialolites. These are harmless cristallisations of beak saliva. Sometimes it is associated with herpes virus. Mostly this is no problem for racing and it can stay there a long time.
A virus like herpes can not be treated effectively, but it can be sometimes advisable to treat the birds for secundary bacterial infections. In that case you can use antibiotics that are effective for upper respiratory problems f.e. linco-spectin, doxycycline, tylan, spiramycine, erythromycine, amoxicilline, sometimes enrofloxacine,... If the birds are healthy and show no repiratory signs I would not treat. As preventive measure colloidal silver can have excellent results.
Kind regards
Er zit in 1 afdeling 3 duiven met 1 bleek oog terwijl de andere gewoon kleurrijk is. Voorheen waren beide ogen goed?
Welke zijn de gevolgen bij duiven die (zwaar) besmet geraakten met het :- herpesvirus - paramyxovirus - adenovirus?
Hi! I'm a vet student; I've just necropsied a pigeon and found a green liver with two white plaques. What could be happening?
Some of the racing pigeons in my loft have a white spot on the tonsil?
Lately i have been noticing my race team with an accumalation of mucus in the back of there throats?
Ik heb sinds vorige winterkweek terugkerende massale sterfte van nestjongen van slechts enkele dagen oud.
Beste,
De symptomen die u beschrijft, heb ik reeds meermaals gezien bij duivenliefhebbers die eveneens van die matjes gebruik maakten. Bij verwijderen van de matjes waren de problemen verdwenen.
Andere mogelijke oorzaken van nestjongen sterfte, kan te maken hebben met E. coli septicaemie, trichomonasbesmetting van de navel (heden ten dage uitzonderlijk te noemen) en er wordt soms ook herpes virus aangetoond en geassocieerd met de problemen. De eerste twee zijn goed te behandelen (maar opletten met resistentie, dus het kan aangewezen zijn een antibiogram te laten maken). Het laatste is een virus en is dus moeilijk te behandelen.
In uw geval denk ik dat het verwijderen van de matjes voldoende zal zijn.
Vriendelijke groeten
My birds have slight swelling around the eyes. What could be wrong?
The most known cause for the symptoms you describe, is chlamydophila, but sometimes other agents as herpes, candida or some bacteria can also cause this. Normally a good treatment for chlamydophila should be sufficient to make the problems disappear. If there is also a viral underlying cause (like herpes) the treatment will be more difficult.
Kind regards
What do you suggest with pigeons with swollen heads, watery eyes ans yellow streeks in the mouth?
Is Baytril advisable against herpesvirus?
What causes one of the eyes of a pigeon to get slightly paler?
I see white spots at the back of the throat. Is that a problem?
I see the symptoms of the "curtain" throat theory. What can I do?
White spots noticed in the troat can be caused by infectious agents, but also sometimes causing no problems at all.
Trichomoniasis is a parasite that can cause white spots in the troat. Depending on the severity of the tricho infection, the spots can be small of much bigger. When you take a swab from the troat, you can be sure whether there is trichoor not. To solve this problem, a treatment against tricho will help, but it is possible that the spots don't disappear very fast.
Another possibility is an infection with Herpes. This virus can cause also white spots in the mouth, especially in younger birds (also in older) who have some respiratory problems. Most of the time, Herpes is one of the different infectious agents that will cause the respiratory problems. To treat Herpes virus, this is not possible, but treating the whole respiratory problem can be of great use.
Pox virus is a virus who will give som yellow spots in the beak, especially in and outside the mouth, the eyes, and sometimes in the troat. When the pigeons are very infected with the pox, it is possible that there are some nodules in theoesophagus, and also interior.
Preventive the birds can be vaccinated, curative, the pigeons will normally cure in 3 - 4 weeks time, desinfecting with iodium can be a great help, but whatever you do, it lasts some weeks before everything is normal again, as long as the pigeons are eating, the problem will be solved normally after some weks.
Another possibility of the white spots are the sialolites, this is not harmfull and stays there all the time, without causing any problem at all. These are the most important reasons of white spots, I hope this willhelp you a bit further.