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Dear Madam/Sir,
When you drop drops in the eyes and it doesn't go away immediately, this is very indicative for upper respiratory problems, which is negative for navigation in racing pigeons. If the drops are coloured like forma drops, the drops should go away rapidly and the colour should be visible in the throat after dropping it in the eyes. This means the connection ducts between eyes, nose, throat is open as it should be. Depending on other symptoms, signs during the clinical examination and/or results from swab tests, different medication (mostly antibiotics) could help coping with these problems f.e. doxycycline, spiramycine, amoxicilline, etc... But there could be also a viral component with this like herpes. In that case antibiotics do not help completely. If you see this frequently with your birds it could be interesting to change your loft climate (better ventilation).
Kind regards
Dear Sir,
The symptoms that you are giving are typically for a bacterial infection in the nest. It could be an E-coli infection or a streptococcus bovis infection. I think if you give them during the period that they are having youngsters in the nest a treatment of 8 days with f.e. products based on amoxicilline ( f.e. Amoxicure of Oropharma ) the problem will be solved. The best way is to start with the treatment when the youngsters are just out of the egg end then during 8 days giving this product. Directly there after you give them for a few days some muti-vitamin supplement . Afterwards it would be better the give some acids in the drinking water to make that the parents are not drinking to much and that they are not giving to much water to their youngsters in the nest.
Of course it would be better if we had the possibility to examinate some of the sick youngsters and to make a diagnosis to be 100 % sure of the problems and to make if necessary a antibiogram to be sure which antibiotic is working.
Best Regards
Bonjour Madame/Monsieur,
Les symptomes peuvent indiquer une E. coli problème. On doit aussi penser à la trichomonose, paratyphose ou herpes. Avec E. coli on peut traiter avec f.e. un sulfonamide avec trimetoprim (ou amoxicillin) pour 8 jours et/ou essayer de laisser faire une autovaccin.
Mes salutations sportives
Bonjour,
Il y a une possibilité qu'il s' agit de streptococcus. Une traitement avec amoxicilline peut être la solution. De tout cas c'est indiqué pour visiter une vétérinaire et/ou laisser faire une necropsy.
Salutations sportives
Dear Sir,
Nevertheless your amoxicillin treatment I still suspect streptococcus to be the problem. It could be interesting in your case to let an antibiogram be made on the streptococcus strain found on your loft. It could be the strain got resistant for the amoxicillin alone, in a lot of cases combination with clavulic acid could be of use.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
Coliform bacteria means bacteria of the Escherichia coli strain. These bacteria are normally present in the intestines of animals and birds. Only when they are isolated in organs like lungs, liver, etc., it is indicative to treat. If these bacteria were found in droppings there is absolutely no indication in giving antibiotics.
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Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms you describe are indicative for a throat inflammation. This can be caused by trichomoniasis, herpes, candida and/or other bacteria like E. coli, staphylococcus, pelistega. A simple diagnostic examination by a vet could show if the birds are infected with trichomoniasis or candidiasis. It is always first important to rule out canker (trichomoniasis) before you can take other steps. When the pigeons are free from canker or candida and the symptoms remain, you can give antibiotics for bacterial problems. Lincomycine-spectinomycine and amoxicillin are mostly good antibiotics for these indications, but an antibiogram (after isolation of pathogenic bacteria in throat swabs) could give more information on what antibiotic is best. But even then we should not underestimate the influence herpes virus could have on the symptoms, even an underlying problem like paratyphus could be of great importance. Try to rule out all of these causes and give the pigeons enough space and fresh air.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms you describe, indicate a problem of trachea infection and throat (perhaps also lungs and airsacks). This is normally not ornitosis for which doxycycline is effective (more upper respiratory and eye infections, sometimes general sickness). There can be a number of causes for this kind of infection f.e. staphylococcus intermedius, pelistega europea, E. coli, herpes, (trachea mite), and if the lungs are also infected and the birds are losing weight you should certainly also consider paratyphus. An antibiotic treatment like amoxicillin, perhaps followed with enrofloxacine, and after this paratyphus vaccination, can be of great help.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
If nothing can be found, there is a possibility your birds are having trouble with streptococcosis. A treatment with amoxicilline for ten days can be very effective. Use in cooperation with your veterinarian.
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Dear Sir,
At first sight I think of two problems: Salmonella infection or Streptococcus infection. For a diagnosis of Salmonella you should advise your friend to gather some droppings for five consecutive days. Bring them to a pigeon veterinarian. He can send them to a laboratory. They can do a bacteriologic culture and an antibiogram on the droppings. For a diagnosis of Streptococcus infection an autopsy must be done on a sick pigeon. First choice antibiotic to treat Streptococcus infection is amoxicillin. Enrofloxacin (Baytril) is the best choice for treating Salmonella. However the antibiogram can give you the best information on what antibiotic you can use for treating Salmonella or Streptococcusinfections.
Kind regards,
Dr. Johan Van der Cruyssen
Het probleem dat u beschrijft ,waarbij zowel oude als jongen tijdens de kweek sterven kan verschillende redenen hebben.
De meest voor de hand liggende reden is volgens mij een salmonella besmetting ( maw paratyfus ) , maar het kan ook een coli-besmetting zijn of een streptococcen infectie.
Het lijkt mij het meest aangewezen eens een duif te laten lijkschouwen en een volledig onderzoek te laten uitvoeren om de oorzaak te achterhalen , want de behandeling van deze verschillende kwalen is niet gelijk.
Behandelingen voor de volgende ziekten :
- paratyfus : eerst alle duiven met symptomen verwijderen en dan de andere duiven 20 dagen behandelen met een antibioticum ( bvb. Theraprim , Cosumix Plus , Baytril , ... ) en nadien inenten tegen paratyfus.
- Streptococcen : een behandeling met amoxicilline gedurende 8 dagen
- coli-infectie : een behandeling van 8 dagen met bvb Theraprim , Cosumix , Baytril , ...
Daarom gezien de verschillende behandelingen , lijkt het mij verstandig om eerst een onderzoek en eventueel een antibiogram te laten maken alvorens alles te gaan uitproberen.
Amoxycilline is a good product. However it is possible that the bacteria which is present, is resistent to Amoxycilline. If you don't see any good evolution with that product, I would recommand to try Baytril 10 % (2 drops 2 times a day). If you see that
the pigeon's life is in danger, you should give it cortisone to have a better oxygenation of the blood.
Beste, Mogelijk heeft deze duif last van streptococcen, of gewoon ook zoals men soms zegt, de maandagziekte, uitgeput na een stevige inspanning. Afhankelijk van het probleem kan een of andere behandeling worden ingesteld. Het is moeilijk om zo een diagnose te stellen, verder onderzoek is nodig, maar ecuchol toedienen, om de eetlust wat op te wekken, betere vertering te verkrijgen, anderzijds zou ik eventueel amoxicylline toedienen om de eventuele streptococcenuitbraak te kunnen blokken, is mogelijks een voorlopige oplossing. Om de juiste oorzaak te kunnen achterhalen is echter verder onderzoek nodig. Aarzel niet me te contacteren voor verdere informatie.
Possibly, your pigeon suffers from streptococcis.