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Can you please tell me why my pigeons are having white watery droppings and then going light and dying?
Dear Madam/Sir,
It is advisable to let your birds be examined by an avian vet. Possibilities are paramyxovirus, paratyphus, endoparasites. Are your pigeons vaccinated/treated for paramyxo and/or paratyphus?
Kind regards
Je suis en colombophil italien, j'aimerai avoire Votre conseil sur un problem que j'ai dans l'elevage?
Bonjour Madame/Monsieur,
Les symptomes peuvent indiquer une E. coli problème. On doit aussi penser à la trichomonose, paratyphose ou herpes. Avec E. coli on peut traiter avec f.e. un sulfonamide avec trimetoprim (ou amoxicillin) pour 8 jours et/ou essayer de laisser faire une autovaccin.
Mes salutations sportives
Sinds een half jaar heb ik problemen met duiven die o.a. niet meer kunnen vliegen of scheef vliegen?
Beste,
Hoewel streptococcen een oorzaak of een complicatie kunnen zijn voor uw probleem, zou ik toch eveneens paratyphus niet uitsluiten. Ik zou u aanraden om naast een volledige amoxicilline-kuur in samenspraak met uw dierenarts (dit is zeker zonder probleem te verkrijgen), ook een paratyphus behandeling uitvoeren mét dubbele inenting! Indien de problemen verder aanslepen of als u nu meer uitsluitsel wil, is zeker autopsie van zieke duiven aangewezen.
Sportieve groeten
Eén van onze duiven heeft waarschijnlijk streptococcen en heeft een kuur van ca 7 dagen gehad van de dierenarts?
Beste Marjolijn,
Indien het werkelijk alleen streptococcen zou zijn, verwacht ik niet deze evolutie. Meestal is de behandeling voor streptococcen heel dankbaar. Vandaar dat ik u zou aanraden om in overleg met uw dierenarts ook een paratyfus behandeling en bij voorkeur ook vaccinatie uit te voeren. Probeer zeker ook alle parasitaire oorzaken uit te sluiten door onderzoek indien dit nog niet gebeurd is.
Sportieve groeten
Every few weeks i have one or two birds that go light and weak to the point that they are not able to fly to their perch or nest?
Dear Sir,
I would suggest a good treatment for paratyphus (antibiotics + two times vaccination) could be of a lot of help for your problem f.e. enrofloxacine for two weeks following vaccination, repeat the vaccination after one month.
Kind regards
I have sick birds in my loft whereby they lose weight and there seems to be a sound of slime in the back of the throat?
Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms you describe, indicate a problem of trachea infection and throat (perhaps also lungs and airsacks). This is normally not ornitosis for which doxycycline is effective (more upper respiratory and eye infections, sometimes general sickness). There can be a number of causes for this kind of infection f.e. staphylococcus intermedius, pelistega europea, E. coli, herpes, (trachea mite), and if the lungs are also infected and the birds are losing weight you should certainly also consider paratyphus. An antibiotic treatment like amoxicillin, perhaps followed with enrofloxacine, and after this paratyphus vaccination, can be of great help.
Kind regards
My young birds are detoriating, symtoms are losing weight and light green (fresh leave color) watery dropping?
Dear Madam/Sir,
A diagnostic examination of the birds by a veterinarian is important. With the symptoms you describe, there are some possibilities. It is important to know if there is/was any vomiting, problems flying or nervous problem. From the info I have from you I think mainly of adenovirus, paratyphus, endoparasites, perhaps paramyxovirus, streptococcus or another infection. There is also a possibility the young birds are weakened by the circovirus so any infection can cause severe problems, as this virus takes away the pigeon's immunity.
Kind regards
A strange disease is giving problems in my birds?
I have some sick birds and don't know what is wrong with them. when they fly to the perch , they breath hard, some have bad droppings.
Dear Madam/Sir,
There is a possibility that your birds are coping with the pigeon specific salmonella or paratyphus. It could explain the symptoms you describe. Nevertheless there are also some other diseases or combination of diseases that can give the symptoms you describe. In such cases it could be interesting to let a sick bird be necropsied and/or to let do a full examination and blood tests to find out what could be wrong.
If you have no possibility to let your birds be examined by an avian (pigeon) vet, you can try by giving antibiotics for paratyphus and vaccinate the birds immediately after that.
Kind regards
This morning when feeding my pigeons i noticed one pigeon sitting on the perch whith its eye lids half closed?
Dear Sir,
The symptoms are those of a very sick pigeons with a real chance of dying soon. The yellow urine is indicative for a severe liver problem f.e. adenovirus type 2 can do this. I advise you to let the bird(s) be examined by a veterinarian if possible and let take samples to get a good diagnosis. If you have a sick pigeon it is always advisable to put this bird in quarantine to protect the rest of your colony.
Kind regards
I have a 2 yrs old pigeon that had the symptoms yellow droppings, vomiting and diarrhoea?
My show pigeons have some problems with their eggs, for the past couple of months the eggs are infertile or dead in shell?
I have a yearling that has lost so much weight she is like a blade, I have treated for multiple infections?
Hi, I have 3 stock birds which went sick. They are having very liqiud faeces which smell very bad. Baytril doesn't help.
Why are my pigeons losing weight?
Dear Sir,
At first sight I think of two problems: Salmonella infection or Streptococcus infection. For a diagnosis of Salmonella you should advise your friend to gather some droppings for five consecutive days. Bring them to a pigeon veterinarian. He can send them to a laboratory. They can do a bacteriologic culture and an antibiogram on the droppings. For a diagnosis of Streptococcus infection an autopsy must be done on a sick pigeon. First choice antibiotic to treat Streptococcus infection is amoxicillin. Enrofloxacin (Baytril) is the best choice for treating Salmonella. However the antibiogram can give you the best information on what antibiotic you can use for treating Salmonella or Streptococcusinfections.
Kind regards,
Dr. Johan Van der Cruyssen
Some of my pigeosn are losing weight and have a deep keel. What is the best treatment?
What do you suggest with pigeons with swollen heads, watery eyes ans yellow streeks in the mouth?
Is Baytril advisable against herpesvirus?
After vaccinating for paramyxovirus and salmonella, my pigeons are getting sick. What is my problem?
Before you vaccinate against Salmonella you must be sure there is no Salmonella on your loft.You can give a blind cure against Salmonella before the vaccination. Better is to send the droppings (gathered during 5 days) to a laboratory. They will do a bacterial culture .If this test is negative you may vaccinate.When you have carriers on your loft and you vaccinate against Salmonella you can have some serious vaccination reactions.I don’t advise to give paramyxovaccination and paratyphusvaccination at the same time. Pigeons with Salmonella don’t always have lumps on the wings or legs. Symptoms of streptococcosis in pigeons are often quite similar to the symptoms of paratyphus.The best you can do is to contact a pigeon veterinarian. He can check if your pigeons are affected with streptococcosis. Streptococci bacteria are not sensible for enrofloxacin. Amoxicillin or ampicillin are first choice for treating this disease. Ask your veterinarian to check also for worms. They also can be responsible for loosing weight and for problems with the droppings.
Wat kan ik doen om, in geval van een ziekte, het gewichtsverlies te beperken?
Het is in eerste instantie heel belangrijk te proberen te achterhalen wat de oorzaak zou kunnen zijn van het niet meer eten van de duiven. Door de oorzaak weg te nemen zal er normaalgezien ook een verbetering van de eetlust optreden.
Let wel, als je voor de onderliggende oorzaak medicatie dient te geven aan de duiven, vergewis u ervan dat de duiven het zeker binnen hebben, als ze niet eten of drinken zal de duif op die manier niet de nodige medicatie binnenkrijgen. Dien de medicatie in deze gevallen individueel toe, ttz rechtstreeks in de bek, op deze manier ben je er zeker van dat de duif eveneens de juiste hoeveelheid medicatie binnenkreeg. (de dierenarts kan eventueel ook de nodige medicatie injecteren)
Ondertussen kan men inderdaad wat water met eventueel electrolieten opspuiten. De dagdosis dat een duif in normale omstandigheden drinkt is ongeveer 50 cc, afhankelijk van oa de weersomstandigheden. Dit dien je best toe in verschillende beurten, zodat de duif de tijd krijgt dit te verwerken of te verteren, indien de duif met een volle krop blijft zitten, heeft het weinig zin extra water of voer toe te dienen op dat moment.
Een betere vertering kan eveneens worden bekomen door de duiven bvb extra ecuchol, sedochol of dergelijke toe te dienen.
Maar een eerste vereiste is en blijft het nagaan van de oorzaken , en hiervan af te helpen, en niet alleen symptomatisch te behandelen, want dan kan de duif bvb ten onder gaan, niet aan het feit dat ze weinig eet, maar bvb aan die ander onderliggende oorzaak.
When do I have to vaccinate for paratyphus and where do i get the vaccine?
In your case you should treat the birds for at least two weeks with Baytril. Then you can give a prime vaccination with an inactive vaccine. One month later you can boost the immunity by giving an inactivated or live vaccine f.e.chevivac-s.
Mijn duif laat een vleugel hangen en vliegt schuin. Wat kan ik doen?
What can I do when my pigeons are going light or have a wet eye?
1)The 2 bests products for that are: Doxycycline other Baytril.
When you give such a product by one cold eye problems you have to give that minimum 10 days.
You have to be sure also that your pigeons are not infected with canker because canker is about by 90 % present by such a problem.
2)When the pigeons are going light, the best is consult a Vet to control the current diseases (Canker-coccidiosis-worms...).
When the Vet don't find any disease and that your pigeons are very light, the best is sacrify a pigeon to make an analysis in a good labo.
When you find the cause of the problem than it's easy to give the just treatment.
3)For the long distance races I don't believe in motivation.
On my own loft, my best prestations (1st internat. Bordeaux, 2nd nat. Montauban...) are always with pigeons who are basketted very quiet.
From 100 km until 400 km, you can use some motivation but not at the beginning of the season.
Newly bought pigeons are fading away and losing body. What is wrong?
The problem can be caused by different kinds of organisms, like parasites, bacteria or viruses.
A good thing to start with is checking the droppings, first of all searching for parasites like coccidiosis, or wurms like ascaridia or capilaria. Especially the last ones can cause pigeons that are coming thinner and thinner.
Also a bacterial culture is in this case very recommended, certainly when I hear the symptoms you see: fading away, going light, losing body,...You mentioned also you killed a lot of youngsters earlier that didn't grow like they should and were weak. All of this could be a sign of an infection with Salmonella, Paratyphus.
For a bacterial culture you need droppings from 5 days, from that specific loft, in that way you are pretty sure there is or there is no paratyphus in the loft. Make sure the pigeons didn't receive any antibiotic the last 2 weeks before the test!!
Also Coli could give some problems in the loft as going light.
How old are the youngsters now? Tricho could also be a problem in young pigeons who don't grow up like they should. You can find out whether they have tricho or not by checking a crop swab.
I should propose that you do a general check up of your youngster loft by
1. Analysis of a crop swab
2. Analysis of the droppings
a. parasitologic examination
b. bacterial culture
3. Analysis of the blood of a youngster could may be reveal if they had contact with paratyphus.
I strongly recommend to do 1 & 2, in that way you will be sure you can treat the pigeons with the right medication. (number 3 will give you a fast result concerning the paratyphus, but is not all over the world available I think)
It is possible that the pigeons from another loft are more vulnerable at this moment for any kind of disease due to the stress situation they are.
Waarom willen sommige duivinnen plots niet meer vliegen en vermageren ze zonder reden?
Differentiaal diagnostisch dienen we in uw geval nog te denken aan adenovirose type 2 (is niet hetzelfde als jongeduivenziekte), paratyfus, E. coli-septicemie.
Het uitbreken van de ziekte is een samenloop van omstandigheden. Het feit dat dit in de rui uitbreekt is niet uitzonderlijk aangezien de rui zeer belastend is voor de immuniteit. Er is immers veel eiwit nodig voor de rui die niet kan aangewend worden voor de productie van afweercellen en antilichamen. Het seizoen was reeds belastend voor de duiven, daarna wordt er dan nog dikwijls mee gekweekt. Zeker de duivin dient voor de productie van haar eitjes weer veel krachten (+ opnieuw eiwit) aan te spreken. Dit is in de rui zeer belastend. Iedere bijkomende onderliggende ziekte (zoals doodgewoon tricho, coccidiose, vaak onderliggend paratyfus, ornithose, herpesvirose,...) zorgt voor een extra belasting van het immuunsysteem waardoor streptococcose gemakkelijker kan doorbreken.
Het is van belang de volledige kolonie voldoende lang te behandelen en andere complicaties te vermijden. De immuniteit goed ondersteunen (leverondersteundende producten in de rui, hoogkwalitatieve voeding, mineralen, B-vitaminen, essentiële vetzuren!) en duiven voldoende laten recupereren van het seizoen is van het grootste belang.