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Can you please let me know the treatment for pox? In my country pigeon pox vaccine is not available.
Hello,
Unfortunately pigeons affected with Poxvirus cannot be cured. You have to treat the breeding pigeons for trichomoniasis,coccidiosis and worms. Pigeons infestated with those parasites have a weakened immunity and are not able to eliminate a beginning poxinfestation.
I don’t know if it is possible to place some mosquitonets to keep the mosquitos out of your loft. Those parasites are the vectors of the poxinfestation.
Kind regards
In my country there is no pigeon vaccines available. However, I found pox and newcastle disease challenges, how to deal with these?
Dear Sir,
The newcastle disease vaccines for chickens can be used with pigeons with some results but I would advise to vaccinate the birds twice a year. The La Sota vaccine for chickens in the drinking water has to be used 4 times a year (every 3 months). The pox virus is more difficult. If you don't have any pox vaccine for pigeons, you cannot take preventive measures for the disease. If there is an outbreak you can try to quarantine infected birds and try to control the mosquitos in the loft. Mosquitos are the most important infecting vector.
Kind regards
Is there any adenovirus and herpesvirus vaccines available for pigeons? Can we use circovirus and pox vaccines for chickens?
Dear Sir,
There are no such pigeon vaccines available at the moment. The EDS vaccine for chickens has been used with pigeons for adenovirus, but scientifically the efficacity of this is seriously questioned, because the EDS adenovirus is very different to the pigeon adenovirus. The problem with vaccines developed for other animals is that these vaccines are not tested with pigeons for efficacity or side-effects. Sometimes the virus strains can differ a lot from the virus strain that causes disease with pigeons. It could be interesting to test the chicken circo vaccines on pigeons. I don't think it is interesting to use the Marek vaccines (herpes) for chickens, because the virus is quite different.
It is absolutely not advisable to use chicken pox vaccines with pigeons. In some chicken vaccines the original (living) pigeon pox virus is used. This means you would give your birds the pox disease.
Kind regards
We had rescued a small pigeon which shows some warts on her body?
Hi! I'm a vet student; I've just necropsied a pigeon and found a green liver with two white plaques. What could be happening?
My pigeon has a pale yellow wart in its left eye. Please tell me what it is and the treatment?
Some of my pigeons have black lumps on their necks and backs?
Dear Sir,
The black lumps are caused by a pox virus. This virus is not the pigeon pox virus itself but it resembles it. Mostly the lumps don't cause much problems. After a couple of weeks they just dry out and fall off. If they are traumatised they can cause some severe bleeding though. In such cases you can put a ligature around the lump. It will dry out and fall off. The virus itself doesn't cause other problems.
Kind regards
Hoe vaak en hoe moeten we inenten tegen pokken?
-Vroeger kwam zelden pokken tegen bij oude duiven die als jong geënt waren, deze ziet men nu veel meer; conclusie: het is aan te raden uw duiven jaarlijks in te enten tegen pokken
Moet ik mijn duiven met pokken laten uitzieken of inenten?
Tegen virussen hebben antibiotica geen effect dus hier heeft het geen zin van antibiotica te geven.
Laten uitzieken is ,natuurlijk een oplossing.
Als u de duiven nu ent gaan ze na een paar dagen een betere immuniteit ontwikkelen.
De duiven die nu nog geen symptomen hebben en die zo snel mogelijk geent worden moeten normaal binnen enkele dagen genoeg immunieit hebben om weinig of geen symptomen te tonen. De duiven die nu al pokken hebben mogen ook geent worden.
Het best is ovo-peristerin te gebruiken.
Het is ook niet verkeerd de hokken te behandelen met een product die o.a. tegen muggen en ongedierte werkt.
Garandeert vaccinatie tegen pokken levenslange immuniteit?
De bedrijven die een pokkenvaccin op de markt hebben raden eveneens aan om de duiven jaarlijks opnieuw in te enten, omdat ze slechts een "garantie" kunnen geven van een 1 jaar durende bescherming.
Wat moet ik doen met een duif met pokken op zijn bek?
What vaccines do you recommend I give before breeding?
Vaccinating against pox, pmv, paratyphus
SOME ADVICE IN ADVANCE.
Never vaccinate ill pigeons, this will cause a pigeon that will become even more ill, and the pigeon won’t get enough power to built up a strong immunity against the disease you have vaccinated, this means that the vaccine won’t work properly.
Never vaccinate during an important period, such as the racing period, the breeding period, the molting period. Make sure you have an interval of minimum 1 month between the date of vaccination and the start of that period, so you won’t have any negative influence due to the vaccination.
Never vaccinate with medication that has not been stored under the right circumstances or that is expired.
I will make a small trip along the life of a pigeon.
At the age of 3 weeks, when the pigeon is weaned, it is already possible to vaccinate the youngsters against paramyxovirosis.
This has the advantage that it is a very easy job, because they don’t fly at that moment.
Another more important advantage is that you have not that high risk that the youngsters came already in contact with the circo-virus.
This virus will attack the immunity system of the pigeon, so the pigeon can become ill, but when you have vaccinated them at a time that they were infected with the circo-virus, they won’t make such a good protection against that disease.
In England they saw a few years ago that the immunity against pmv didn’t last 1 year anymore after the vaccination against pmv, but when they did some more research, they founded out that the pigeons had been infected with thecirco-virus at the time of vaccination.
They also have seen, that vaccinated pigeons against pmv at an age of 3 weeks, will have lesser problems with adeno-virus. But be careful: Lesser will not mean no problems at all!!!
A disadvantage of vaccinating the pigeons at an age of 3 weeks, is that you can’t do it together with the pox or paratyphus, because for this they have to be minimum 6 weeks old.
At the age of 6 weeks you can vaccinate them against the pox or paratyphus.
I would suggest to do first the pox, because the pox vaccination, no matter which vaccine you use, can give some problems with the homing ability of the pigeons, certainly on day 7 & 8 after the vaccination. Therefor it is better not to let them fly during that period, so they won’t get lost. If you vaccinate against the pox at an age of 6 weeks, they don’t fly very much outside, and you don’t have to interrupt the learning procedure.
Don’t vaccinate at the same time against the pox and paratyphus, because the pox vaccination can cause a backsliding of the pigeons immunity, which can give some problems for the pigeons to make a good immunity againstparatyphus.
Pmv together with the pox is no problem at all.
I should suggest to vaccinate the youngsters against paratyphus at an age of 10 weeks, and when needed, following the prescription of the manufacturer, once again at an age of 13 weeks.
As yearling and old pigeon, I would vaccinate them against pmv just after weaning the youngsters (you can do the youngsters and old pigeons at the same time, if they don’t breed after that), or when they are on eggs (at that moment the fertilization is already finished). Although most fanciers don’t vaccinate older pigeons against the pox if they were vaccinated as youngsters, I would suggest to do it still, just like the manufacturers mention!!
Vaccinating against paratyphus can be done 1 month before the breeding period, after molting, and/or 1 month before the racing season begins. But think always to treat the pigeons before you will vaccinate them against paratyphus, in order to have not that much problems afterwards.
Very important!!!
Always vaccinate all your pigeons,
not only those you race with,
but also the breeders and hens!!!!
What can be done and what not??
|
On 3 weeks old |
On 6 weeks old |
In combination with pox |
In combination with paratyphus |
|
|
Pmv |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
Yes |
|
Pox |
No |
Yes |
- |
No |
|
Paratyphus |
No |
Yes |
No |
- |
This is just a scheme, always follow the advice of the manufacturer!!!
A small note of the combination pmv and paratyphus.
You can vaccinate this at the same time, but not in the same syringe, because they saw that after vaccinating with the products in the same syringe, there will be a good protection against the paratyphus, but not such a good protection against the pmv. When you administer it in a different syringe, but at the same time, they saw you won’t have such problems.
A small note of the combination pmv and pox.
In Belgium there are two vaccines available against the pox, one that has to be mixed with the pmv solvent, so you can inject it subcutaneous. The other one has to be administered separately by pulling out some feathers on the path or on the breast, followed by putting some vaccine over there with a small brush. This last one can also be done at the same time as the vaccination against the pmv.
In practice, we see that the follicle method (with the small brush) is more effective compared with the subcutaneous against the pox. If you vaccinate 100 pigeons with the follicle method, the efficacy is almost 100 %, when you vaccinate 100 pigeons with the subcutaneous method, you can have 6-7 pigeons who will develop pox lesions later on.
Hoe kan ik een bloedzweer op de vleugel verwijderen?
Mijn duiven hebben bloedwratten. Kan dit kwaad en wat is de oorzaak?
I see the symptoms of the "curtain" throat theory. What can I do?
White spots noticed in the troat can be caused by infectious agents, but also sometimes causing no problems at all.
Trichomoniasis is a parasite that can cause white spots in the troat. Depending on the severity of the tricho infection, the spots can be small of much bigger. When you take a swab from the troat, you can be sure whether there is trichoor not. To solve this problem, a treatment against tricho will help, but it is possible that the spots don't disappear very fast.
Another possibility is an infection with Herpes. This virus can cause also white spots in the mouth, especially in younger birds (also in older) who have some respiratory problems. Most of the time, Herpes is one of the different infectious agents that will cause the respiratory problems. To treat Herpes virus, this is not possible, but treating the whole respiratory problem can be of great use.
Pox virus is a virus who will give som yellow spots in the beak, especially in and outside the mouth, the eyes, and sometimes in the troat. When the pigeons are very infected with the pox, it is possible that there are some nodules in theoesophagus, and also interior.
Preventive the birds can be vaccinated, curative, the pigeons will normally cure in 3 - 4 weeks time, desinfecting with iodium can be a great help, but whatever you do, it lasts some weeks before everything is normal again, as long as the pigeons are eating, the problem will be solved normally after some weks.
Another possibility of the white spots are the sialolites, this is not harmfull and stays there all the time, without causing any problem at all. These are the most important reasons of white spots, I hope this willhelp you a bit further.