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Dear Sir,
The symptoms that you are giving are typically for a bacterial infection in the nest. It could be an E-coli infection or a streptococcus bovis infection. I think if you give them during the period that they are having youngsters in the nest a treatment of 8 days with f.e. products based on amoxicilline ( f.e. Amoxicure of Oropharma ) the problem will be solved. The best way is to start with the treatment when the youngsters are just out of the egg end then during 8 days giving this product. Directly there after you give them for a few days some muti-vitamin supplement . Afterwards it would be better the give some acids in the drinking water to make that the parents are not drinking to much and that they are not giving to much water to their youngsters in the nest.
Of course it would be better if we had the possibility to examinate some of the sick youngsters and to make a diagnosis to be 100 % sure of the problems and to make if necessary a antibiogram to be sure which antibiotic is working.
Best Regards
Bonjour Madame/Monsieur,
Les symptomes peuvent indiquer une E. coli problème. On doit aussi penser à la trichomonose, paratyphose ou herpes. Avec E. coli on peut traiter avec f.e. un sulfonamide avec trimetoprim (ou amoxicillin) pour 8 jours et/ou essayer de laisser faire une autovaccin.
Mes salutations sportives
Dear Sir,
To diagnose your problem, I would recommend to do a necropsy on a dead pigeon, because without a good diagnosis, it is impossible to treat like it should be.
Death can be caused by many different agents, such as adeno type II, Coli, Paratyphus, eating of toxic materials, etc….
I would surely recommend to test the droppings, checking the presence of wurms, coccidiosis, also to do a culture of a 5 day droppings, searching for paratyphus.
A vet can may be diagnose something on a living pigeon also, tricho,…
Don’t hesistate to contact me for more information
Beste,
Waterige mest met sterfte van nestjongen wordt vaak veroorzaakt door E. Coli. Andere oorzaken zoals paratyfus, coccidiose, paramyxo, trichomonas of een intoxicatie kunnen echter niet uitgesloten worden. Het is daarom aangeraden om dit verder te laten onderzoeken. Controle van de oude duiven, van een staal uitwerpselen en autopsie van gestorven nestjongen door een dierenarts kunnen hier uitsluitsel geven over de oorzaak. In afwachting van de resultaten geef je electrolieten en mineralen ter ondersteuning. Ook start je best met een antibioticumkuur tegen E. Coli en secundaire infecties. Eens de resultaten van het onderzoek gekend zijn, kan de strategie in functie van de uiteindelijke diagnose aangepast worden.
Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms you describe are indicative for a throat inflammation. This can be caused by trichomoniasis, herpes, candida and/or other bacteria like E. coli, staphylococcus, pelistega. A simple diagnostic examination by a vet could show if the birds are infected with trichomoniasis or candidiasis. It is always first important to rule out canker (trichomoniasis) before you can take other steps. When the pigeons are free from canker or candida and the symptoms remain, you can give antibiotics for bacterial problems. Lincomycine-spectinomycine and amoxicillin are mostly good antibiotics for these indications, but an antibiogram (after isolation of pathogenic bacteria in throat swabs) could give more information on what antibiotic is best. But even then we should not underestimate the influence herpes virus could have on the symptoms, even an underlying problem like paratyphus could be of great importance. Try to rule out all of these causes and give the pigeons enough space and fresh air.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
The symptoms you describe, indicate a problem of trachea infection and throat (perhaps also lungs and airsacks). This is normally not ornitosis for which doxycycline is effective (more upper respiratory and eye infections, sometimes general sickness). There can be a number of causes for this kind of infection f.e. staphylococcus intermedius, pelistega europea, E. coli, herpes, (trachea mite), and if the lungs are also infected and the birds are losing weight you should certainly also consider paratyphus. An antibiotic treatment like amoxicillin, perhaps followed with enrofloxacine, and after this paratyphus vaccination, can be of great help.
Kind regards
Dear Sir,
There is a big chance from what you describe she has an infection on her ovary duct and more specifically in the region the calcium layer around the egg is produced. This can be caused by some bacteria like salmonella, streptococcus, E. coli. There is also a possibility there is a tumoral problem so it doesn't always have to be an infectious problem. Nevertheless in practice it is almost always an infectious problem. Depending on the bacteria it can be more or less infectious for other birds on the loft. Always be alert for the paratyphus problem (salmonella). Bacteria can be treated with antibiotics. For salmonella enrofloxacine is mostly very effective, but it is advisable to choose your treatment in accordance with your vet.
Kind regards
Dear Sir,
Doxycycline can certainly be effective for E. coli. Don't think of antibiotics of being effective for some disease or some problem, but think of them being effective for a certain range of bacteria (if they are sensitive). If that range of bacteria happens to give a lot of problems for f.e. respiratory problems, than that antibiotic can be effective for respiratory problems. There is no 'rule' for this, bacteria can for example get resistant and then the antibiotic is not effective.
Kind regards
Dear Sir,
This is indeed not normal. Allthough there is no indication for disease as the birds are active and have good droppings, I would nevertheless advise to let your birds be examined by your vet and take samples for the most common diseases. In case of egg laying problems especially paratyphus, streptococcus and E. coli could be a problem. But in any case a general clinical exam could bring some clarity. Also make sure the birds get enough minerals (calcium) and protein.
Kind regards
Dear Sir,
This could be a serious problem. If it's a young hen, most of the time egg binding is caused by infectious agents like paratyphus, streptococcus, E. coli which causes inflammation of the oviduct. It is advisable to start an individual antibiotic cure after a veterinary examination and put the hen in quarantaine. In a lot of cases the egg just comes off. In some cases the hen has to be injected with oxytocine by the vet. Sometimes even surgery is necessary.
Kind regards
Dear Sir,
Watery droppings can be caused by a number of factors. Infectious agents that can cause watery droppings are paramyxovirus, paratyphus, sometimes E. coli septicaemia, herpes, etc... Normally this is related with kidney damage. If the kidneys don't function properly, they don't retain enough water and so a lot of water is lost through the urine of the bird (which normally is solid and white). If there is an intestinal problem the droppings are more slimy than watery.
Another cause could just be stress. Some (male) birds tend to drink much more when they are separated just because of stress. When the birds drink more they also make much more (watery) urine.
A good veterinary examination of your birds could be of more assistance to find the real cause.
Kind regards
Beste,
De symptomen die u beschrijft, heb ik reeds meermaals gezien bij duivenliefhebbers die eveneens van die matjes gebruik maakten. Bij verwijderen van de matjes waren de problemen verdwenen.
Andere mogelijke oorzaken van nestjongen sterfte, kan te maken hebben met E. coli septicaemie, trichomonasbesmetting van de navel (heden ten dage uitzonderlijk te noemen) en er wordt soms ook herpes virus aangetoond en geassocieerd met de problemen. De eerste twee zijn goed te behandelen (maar opletten met resistentie, dus het kan aangewezen zijn een antibiogram te laten maken). Het laatste is een virus en is dus moeilijk te behandelen.
In uw geval denk ik dat het verwijderen van de matjes voldoende zal zijn.
Vriendelijke groeten
Het probleem dat u beschrijft ,waarbij zowel oude als jongen tijdens de kweek sterven kan verschillende redenen hebben.
De meest voor de hand liggende reden is volgens mij een salmonella besmetting ( maw paratyfus ) , maar het kan ook een coli-besmetting zijn of een streptococcen infectie.
Het lijkt mij het meest aangewezen eens een duif te laten lijkschouwen en een volledig onderzoek te laten uitvoeren om de oorzaak te achterhalen , want de behandeling van deze verschillende kwalen is niet gelijk.
Behandelingen voor de volgende ziekten :
- paratyfus : eerst alle duiven met symptomen verwijderen en dan de andere duiven 20 dagen behandelen met een antibioticum ( bvb. Theraprim , Cosumix Plus , Baytril , ... ) en nadien inenten tegen paratyfus.
- Streptococcen : een behandeling met amoxicilline gedurende 8 dagen
- coli-infectie : een behandeling van 8 dagen met bvb Theraprim , Cosumix , Baytril , ...
Daarom gezien de verschillende behandelingen , lijkt het mij verstandig om eerst een onderzoek en eventueel een antibiogram te laten maken alvorens alles te gaan uitproberen.