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Dear Sir,
I think there are possible 2 problems in your loft
1/ Maybe there is an infection with tricho , so I advice to give them a tablet against tricho per pigeon
2/ The symptoms that you are describing are typically for ornithosis ( respiratory ) problems. The skin around the eyes become dark, brown and the pigeons are after flying sitting with open beak. Also they scratchs on their head and ears. It would be better to give them a treatment of 8 days of a combination of the antibiotics doxycycline + lincospectine together and also put some consecutive days after eachother an antibiotic eye-drops in the eyes ( f.e. Neobacitracine droppings ). Important also if you give a treatment with doxycycline is that you use calcium free water ( bottle-water ) and also give them no grit during the treatment ( only some redstone ).
Afterwards give them 3 days some multi-vitamins + amino-acids and then they aere ready again to perform.
Best Regards
Si une narine est fortement gonflée, cela peut être quand même une poquette. La vaccination protège mais pas toujours à 100%. Cela peut toujours être un abcès ou une infection autre. En cas de poquettes, les lésions disparaissent après environ 3 semaines. Vous pouvez lui donner quelques jours (5-6 jours) un comprimé de Baytril 15 mg par jour pour combattre une éventuelle infection.
Salutations
Hello Denny,
When the hen has a certain age and she has been breeding a lot there is always a possibility that she lays an egg of abnormal size.It could mean that her laying capacity goes to an end.
I should advise to give extra vitamins (Vit D and E) and extra calcium.These supplements will be efficient when the abnormal egg is the result of a lack of vitamins and minerals.
Small eggs can also be seen when there is an infection of the egg-laying apparatus.
Kind regards
Beste,
Over het algemeen mag je stellen dat duiven meestal enkele nadelige effecten kunnen ondervinden van medicatie, maar heel veel hangt af van het soort medicatie. Voor wormmiddelen is het bijv. gekend dat zowel rui als vruchtbaarheid onder deze medicatie dikwijls te lijden heeft. Baycox geeft een duidelijk conditieverlies, het is niet verstandig dit vlak voor een wedstrijd te geven. Doxycycline is relatief onschuldig zoals de meeste antibiotica maar opnieuw hangt dit af van het soort antibioticum. Sommige antibiotica zijn absoluut niet nadelig zelfs vlak voor de wedstrijd, doxycycline daarentegen wordt best niet vlak voor de wedstrijd gegeven. Enkele antibiotica geven zelfs zichtbaar conditieverbetering maar mijns inziens hebben duivenliefhebbers daar een verkeerd beeld over. De duiven verbeteren niet door het product, ze verbeteren doordat er een onderliggend ziekteprobleem aanwezig is op hun hokken dat (tijdelijk) weggenomen wordt waardoor de duiven klinisch verbeteren. Voor lange afstandsvluchten blijken te lange antibioticum-kuren dikwijls nadelig voor de prestatie. Bij kortere afstanden is dit over het algemeen meestal niet zo, maar de duiven bevruchten duidelijk minder lang en minder goed in hun carriëre op het kweekhok.
Algemeen is het volgens mij niet verstandig altijd blindelings te kuren, maar is het veeleer van belang gericht te kuren na een goede diagnose. Dikwijls zie ik mensen die hoogstens enkele jaren op medicatie goed spelen en uiteindelijk een minderwaardige stam duiven overhouden. Als zij er toe in staat zijn, moeten zij dan steeds nieuwe duiven blijven inkopen. Zoals bij veel zaken bestaat er ook hier een gulden middenweg, waarbij gerichte medicatie als het nodig is de blijvende weg naar succes is.
Vriendelijke groeten
Dear Madam/Sir,
It is possible to save some birds but I use vaccination for this. The best way from my point of view is treatment with enrofloxacine for 14 days, vaccination on day 10. Repeat the vaccination after one month and look very well for any signs of illness, you can vaccinate a third time one month later.
Keep vaccinating all your pigeons when you keep those infected birds!
Kind regards
Dear Franco,
These symptoms are indicative for a general severe illness or malnutrition with the youngsters but probably also with the parents. There can be more causes for this which I can only guess here, so an autopsy would be very useful. I'm considering paratyphus, but there are certainly more causes possible. Also I'm thinking of circovirus as I suspect this is also cause for feather anomalies in very young pigeons.
Kind regards
Hello,
Colombovac PMV contains also an inactivated La Sota virus. This La Sota type gives sufficient immunity.
I cannot give much information about the vaccine you mention because I have no technical information about this vaccine. But the LaSota type of virus gives sufficient immunity.
Kind regards
Beste,
Je moet hier rekening houden met 2 zaken. Ofwel is er een gezondheidsprobleem, ofwel is uw vliegploeg niet klaar voor het kweekseizoen. Ziekteverwekkers van verschillende aard (parasitair, viraal, bacterieel) kunnen voor een slechte kweek zorgen. Een onderzoek door de dierenarts voor de start van de kweek is daarom aangewezen. Je verwijst in je vraag echter niet naar opvallende ziektesymptomen. Daarom en omdat uw kwekers het wel goed doen, lijkt de tweede mogelijkheid in uw situatie meer voor de hand liggend: de vliegduiven zijn nog niet klaar voor de kweek. Hiermee wil ik aangeven dat er een goede conditie en voorbereiding vereist is voor het kweekseizoen. We zien dat kweekduiven die sinds mei gescheiden zitten, mooi uitgeruid zijn, een vaste kweekbak hebben en voorgekoppeld werden, een vlottere kweek tegemoet gaan dan de vliegploeg die nog laat werd gespeeld, verduisterd werd en dus niet uitgeruid is tegen de kweekperiode. Bij de vliegduiven zit er ook een hoger percentage jaarlingen die nog geen vaste bak of partner hebben. Dit creëert ook meer onrust op het hok. Al deze factoren zorgen voor een al dan niet geslaagde kweek!
Succes
Dear Madam/Sir,
Individual treatment for paratyphus is not a good idea, for the other diseases it could be OK to treat individually. For coccidiosis it is not always necessary to treat (depends on the infection rate). Metronidazole causes vomiting so this could be the reason for the symptom.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
This is most likely a good way of treating according to literature, but to be honest I do not have practical experience with this disease as we do not (yet) have pigeon malaria in Belgium.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
It is not always clear what is causing parents to be wet feeders. Sometimes a simple coccidiosis infection can be the problem but other causes are also possible. In a lot of cases a trimetoprim/sulfa medication is of great help but it doesn't necessarily mean the problems can't come back. Doing a good preventive vaccination for the most important pigeon diseases can also be of great help.
Kind regards
Dear Rob,
This is a typical phenomenon which is indicative that the birds are not completely healthy. It is caused by digestive problems (gut or liver) or kidney problems causing the parents to drink too much. There are more than one cause for this phenomenon. Sometimes it can exceptionally also be seen in healthy birds (but than it is only one bird and not the complete loft) that wants to take care of his youngsters 'too much' by drinking a lot. Normal parasitic infections like coccidiosis and trichomonas but also yeast infections should be taken into account but underlying causes like paratyphus, paramyxo and herpes are equally important. Also some E. coli strains can cause such problems. Try to get a diagnosis and take preventive measures like vaccination for the underlying causes. Certain antibiotics like trimetoprim and amoxicilline are usually very usefull with these symptoms, but prevention is equally (more) important.
Kind regards
Dear Mark,
First of all it is important to understand how circovirus works. This virus destroys an important organ for the immunity of a young bird, so it undermines the bird's capability to make antibodies. This means the pigeon has no good resistance against other diseases. The circovirus itself doesn't make the bird ill, other infections do. In your case I suspect there could also have been kidney damage by one of those other diseases f.e. paramyxo or paratyphus. As kidneys cannot regenerate well, it is possible the droppings are not good despite of the birds being healthy.
Off course other causes for the irregular droppings should be excluded by clinical examination (coccidiosis, parasites).
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
For pox virus you can not really treat. Only for prevention vaccination is effective. You can only take care of the pox lesions itself and try to cope with mosquitos (because they are responsible for transferring the disease). Some plantextracts, iodium tincture or hypochlorite can be used to treat the pox lesions (not in the eyes).
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
This could be very indicative for a paratyphus problem. Nevertheless there can be other causes for the problem you are facing. If the eggs were filled but did not hatch, paratyphus is very probable. If the eggs were not filled, paratyphus is still a probability but other causes like the wrong medication at the moment of laying could also be a cause. If the eggs were filled it can sometimes be very good to let these eggs be investigated in a lab and so have a definite diagnosis.
Nevertheless it would not be a bad idea to take preventive measures for paratyphus.
Kind regards
Hello,
Sarcocystis is a parasite who causes sarcosporidiosis. Normally the pigeon can be infected when he takes in sporocysts from infested droppings from a bird of prey. The bird of prey is an asymptomatic carrier. This means that he carries the disease without having symptoms.
The pigeon can have neurological symptoms.
It still needs some research to know how the infection can go from one pigeon to another pigeon.
There is no known treatment at this moment. There is no vaccine available.
Dear Gord,
At this moment I use always enrofloxacine in positive cases of salmonella, but I had a very few identified salmonella strains and the antibiogram showed that the enrofloxacine didn’t work anymore like it should be. Using products like difloxacine did do the job. Apparently some strains became during the years resistant against enrofloxacine. The combination of sulfa trimethoprim is in some cases good in the battle against paratyphus, but when there are carriers, I really have some doubts.
After the treatments and the culture from 5 day samples, the results were negative after a treatment with enrofloxacine. But if you have some carriers the question is if they will shed out the bacteria at that moment of monstering.
Concerning that other questions, I will do some research and let you know as soon as possible.
Regards
Dear Sir,
If it is the first time you vaccinate for paratyphus it is still indicated to give an antibiotic treatment prior to vaccination. If the birds were vaccinated last years it is not always necessary to treat the birds.
For paramyxovaccination no treatments are necessary.
Kind regards
Dear Mark,
I would advise to vaccinate young birds for paratyphus from 6 weeks of age, repeat the vaccination after one month.
I always advise my clients to vaccinate for paratyphus, certainly when there are some indications. Even only bad racing results is enough for me to decide for these kind of vaccinations. When everything looks very good and there are no indications whatsoever you can skip the vaccinations one or two years, but I stay in favor to vaccinate regularly enough. When there have been problems I would certainly vaccinate for a couple of years. And when you would decide to skip a year or more, it is wise to stay alert for any signs.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
For pigeon racing creatine is relatively less important, also depending on the racing distance. Creatine has good effects in short explosive sports. This is because creatine is used by white muscle fibres as energy (the making of ATP) in the first ten seconds of a physical effort. White muscle fibres are important in powerful physical efforts, meaning speed and power. But this is only the first ten seconds. Creatine also has the effect that the muscles can recuperate better because of this energy reservoir.
Nevertheless, pigeon races are always much longer and is more an endurance race. Even speed races are much longer and the pigeons get their energy from carbonhydrates and fat. So I would not say that creatine has no positive effects, but I suspect it will have more effects in recuperating than in the actual race.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
From the information I get from you I would indeed suspect the birds had encountered a bird of prey. I am not immediately thinking of any infectious or other disease but it could always be wise to visit an avian veterinarian.
The story sound like a bird of prey - they can be very fast and you can easily miss them - tried to fetch one of your birds, explaining the reaction of your birds. The pigeons see these things much faster than we do.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
Although it is said vaccination can sometimes worsen the disease, it seems that it can also work therapeutic. This is also the case for some other diseases, these are called curative vaccinations. The working mechanisms for this are not very clear but I suspect a kind of homeotherapeutic effect. In any case it seems that after vaccinating there are very little new outbreaks and the disease is under control after more than a week. In case of PMV, the birds with nervous symptoms could take long to heal because nerves grow back very slowly. This could take weeks to even months. It is also possible these birds will never be able to get normal again. The watery droppings could also last for a long time even when the disease long gone, because of the kidney damage.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
The disease is easily prevented by a good vaccine. For now there exists a good pox vaccine from Tsjechië, called diphtofarm. Other prevention is keeping mosquitos outside of the loft because they are very important in infection from pigeon to pigeon (because of the blood contact). Also fighting amongst each other causes the infection to spread. When the birds are sick it is very important that the birds keep eating. Large lesions, not around the eyes, can be dealt with with dipping with natrium hypochlorite, iodium or some herbal tinctures like f.e. of greater celandine with very good effect.
Kind regards
Dear Madam/Sir,
I personally suspect the main problem on your loft was probably a calcium metabolism problem. Although paratyphus can cause malabsorption of calcium because of the intestinal problems, a calcium problem on itself can also cause similar musculoskeletal symptoms. Calcium is, amongst other things, very important for muscle contraction and the working of nervous cells. When the pigeons react so good on the vitamin D, it is very well possible they aren't making enough vitamin D themselves. I suspect the pigeons are in a dark loft?
Vitamin D is made under the influence of sunlight, so giving the birds enough light and air is important. Also give the birds enough minerals.
Vitamin D and calcium does help for such problems of muscles and nervous tissue. It also helps for infertility, especially in the winter (darker period).
Kind regards
Cela ressemble à de la paratyphose. Néanmoins, le mieux est de faire une prise de sang pour effectuer un test paratyphose. En cas de diagnostic positif et si vous voulez garder ce pigeon, il faut effectuer un traitement individuel pendant 3 semaines et ensuite vacciner. Il faut égalemnt traiter l'ensemble de la colonie plus effectuer la vaccination pour tous. S'il ne s'agit pas de paratyphose, cela peut égalemnt être dû à des streptocoques.
Salutations